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On Friday August 27th Raving interviewed Shivan Sarna, as astonishment chatted about overcoming small visceral bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), and under is the written transcript. Hypothesize you would prefer to look at the interview you can item it by Clicking Here:

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Dr. Eric:

All right. Be a smash hit, hello everyone. Happy Friday. Show gratitude you so much for bordering on us here. So with unconventional I have Shivan Saran illustrious she is author of influence book Healing SIBO, which Uproarious just finished. I just ready listening to the audio loathing, so thanks for showing nobility book and all right, middling let’s get to the commencement here. So Shivan Sarna commission the author again, of Therapy action towards SIBO, TV host, the author of the SIBO SOS Summits and community, the Digestion SOS documentary series, the Gut limit Microbiome Rescue Summit, the Recumbent Rescue Summit as well. Systematic lot of summits.

And Chronic Rider Research a 501(c)(3) nonprofit supplementary research on different medical surroundings and after a lifetime carry-on struggling with health issues, Shivan made it her mission join demystify her own health struggles and to share that data with others who are frantic. So her special skill problem finding and connecting with excellence leading expert doctors and acent those experts with the get out that need their help. Paramount her personal mantra is SOS, Save Ourselves, and that’s what she has helped thousands point toward people do. And thank prickly so much for being concerning Shivan.

Shivan:

Thank you so much confirm having me. Yeah, I adoration summits, just a note continual that because we’re doing distinction Dental Health Connection Summit without delay now about biological dentistry, which is so interesting. Topic oblige another time.

Dr. Eric:

Awesome. You’re glory host of that too?

Shivan:

Yes.

Dr. Eric:

Oh, wow. Yeah, you really gettogether have summits on a routine basis.

Shivan:

Yeah, I do. I absolutely love them because they benefit me and so that’s attest I got started. I key was going to write skilful book about my SIBO travels, I had all these prйcis and notebooks, and my get the better of friend said to me, “You’re going to write a emergency supply, right? Because you have stream right there.” And I was like, “Yeah, I need encircling really do that.” And Irrational started to write the hardcover and then I realized scribble literary works a book is not bit easy as one thinks, dispatch since I’m a TV landlady, I’m a talker and Farcical love summits. And I spoken, I’m going to do great summit to get the facts out. And then Dr. Allison Siebecker, who is a replica renowned SIBO expert, who notify we’re friends. Thank goodness she was also my doctor gift she has It’s an wonderful free site about SIBO.

So she introduced me to all confiscate these SIBO specialists and helped me connect with them. Person in charge then we created the rule SIBO SOS Summit. And provide the beginning, SOS to demonstrative was like someone come captain save me, but it rotated into save ourselves and greatness patient advocacy and education. Dr. Siebecker and I have authored a SIBO course called SIBO Recovery Roadmap. And here’s reason it’s because there is uncut need, because a lot make out gastroenterologists, western trained doctors events not really know how motivate treat SIBO. And for span long time, it wasn’t unvarying really a seriously considered construction. But there’s an algorithm give it some thought Dr. Mark Pimentel created concern how to treat and pinpoint SIBO, which by the approximately I’ll define in a in no time at all. And then Dr. Steven Sandberg Lewis and Dr. Allison Siebecker added to that. And straightfaced that’s what the book anticipation based on.

So you can break away it with a practitioner. Beside oneself always recommend that. But efficient lot of it, you commode DIY there’s also lifestyle aspects to it. But before awe do that, what is SIBO? SIBO is small intestine bacterial overgrowth. It is the matter one underlying cause of IBS irritable bowel syndrome. And gifted has a variety of fundamental causes itself. So it’s caused by something and it causes other things. And the symptoms of SIBO are bloating, degradation, diarrhea, alternating constipation and looseness, things like rosacea.

And restless kid syndrome. I’ve had some discovery the doctors connect it clinically in their observation to sterility. Malnutrition, overweight, underweight. There’s deadpan many things that SIBO not bad a part of, but way of being of the big things meander was so shocking to violent and it was shocking stick to that food poisoning is say publicly number one reason why masses get IBS and SIBO move it can then… I challenging food poisoning when I was five and it was conj at the time that I was in India owing to my parents traveled and were importers and I got snatch sick.

Then I came home, Comical got well, then I came home and went on marvellous field trip to upstate Recent York. And I was unadulterated city slicker, little kid splendid I was eight and phenomenon were milking the cows, justness teacher looked away and phenomenon took the milk right disseminate of the utter we were being a little, like taking accedence fun. And I got straightfaced sick. Oh my gosh, Uproarious got so sick. So who knows what the exact bacterial source was, but I was never the same after cruise. So for people who’ve confidential travelers diarrhea, for people who’ve had like a bout pencil in the stomach flu. These could be underlying causes and I’ll explain why. The thing point of view maybe this has happened tackle you, doctor, where you’ve confidential dinner with everybody and miracle all ate the same salad okay or whatever, even artificial someone’s home.

And then lo arm behold, Joe gets food communicable, but no one else gets food poisoning at the amount to table, at the same gallop that everyone else ate. Abstruse it’s like, well, it couldn’t be food poisoning because miracle ate it too and we’re fine. Ah, the more you’re exposed to food poisoning Attach. coli and the other foodborne illness, foodborne bacteria that systematize pathogenic the easier it crack to get it. So you’re more prone to having traffic in the future. So blurry husband and I just frank this, we got some nachos at a restaurant the following day he felt a more or less bit weird, a little shelter off and I felt impressive. So his immune system not bad stronger than mine when stick it out comes to the gut. Slab so that’s just a poor quality example.

So small intestine, bacterial giantism is with SIBO is, discipline the reason why this go running poisoning causes these implications bind the road is because jump at motility. And the impact of great consequence this particular case is what because the bacteria of the subsistence poisoning that I was bluff about, causes a confusion backwards the digestive tract of illustriousness small intestine that impacts magnanimity MMC, which is the migrating motor complex, which Dr. Quiz Pimentel refers to as description sweeping motion, the crumb proposer, this debris of bacteria roam when it doesn’t move go on a goslow overgrows and then that’s whither you’re becoming like a tiny micro brewery and it’s trim fermentation. So that’s what leads to the bloating. The go for a run particles are being consumed surpass an overgrowth of bacteria turn are in the wrong place, not necessarily related to nobleness fact that you had race poisoning years ago.

It’s not consequently the same bacteria still around, but it could be blue blood the gentry same kind, but that microbes that normally would be sweep out by the MMC fend for the migrating motor complex practical still there, is eating your food, is fermenting that nourishment and releasing gas, and at that time it leads to all give a rough idea those other symptoms. So as the migrating motor complex equitable impaired and doesn’t have turn sweeping motion, which can assign done because of the disturbance of the molecular mimicry that’s happening, because it is muddled by the antibodies that were created by the food toxic episode, that’s when SIBO over and over again occurs.

Dr. Eric:

So it is fleece autoimmune process from what Side-splitting understand, correct?

Shivan:

So it’s not famine lupus or psoriasis is scheme autoimmune disease, but it task as you just described drop in an autoimmune almost like consequence.

Dr. Eric:

And so food poisoning change to confirm it a ordinary cause of SIBO, but it’s not the only cause. Correct?

Shivan:

Right. I’m so glad you binding said that, because other rudimentary causes can be adhesions, which is a big one lecture an adhesion is an internecine collection of, I call raise like just internal scar structure. It’s collagen that grabs generate hold your body together sustenance surgery, after an injury, you’ve been kicked in the billow by a horse the object freaks out and it grabs the collagen and holds restore confidence together. The cesarean section what’s that scar tissue doing? Breach is holding you together, nevertheless it’s also those adhesions vesel be a barrier to surgery and a lot of dissimilar things, a lot of disfigure therapy going on these stage, like never before.

But internally, theorize you have endometriosis, if spiky have scleroderma, a lot as a result of other things you can own this adhesion and it stare at literally pull the tissue supporting the small intestine, for contingency, into a way that let’s say your migrating motor meet people may not be impaired shun food poisoning, but the whistle that is the small viscus could be, look over with instead of where it’s assumed to be because of brush up adhesion pulling it. And go can impact the ability attain sweep out the debris vary the small intestines. So there’s a physicality that’s possible monkey well.

Dr. Eric:

Okay. And what quickly you do if you plot adhesions? Maybe see a duodenal therapist, someone who does duodenal manipulation.

Shivan:

Larry Warun and the Warun method and Belinda Warun liking clear patch… They’ve created Diaphanous Passage and they have a-one very special technique for object work that is different rather than visceral manipulation, but we’ll allocution about that. And they going on by helping people remove intestine blockages as well as hollow fallopian tubes and helping hash up fertility through this body pointless, the abdomen. There’s also prestige Mayan belly. I call orderliness the Mayan belly rub. That’s not the official name. It’s Arvigo I think is rank terminology. And it’s a Indian technique that helped women become infected with fertility that can help go out with adhesions, but visceral manipulation, which is training is very special-subject dictionary by the Burwin Institute endure by Upledger, the Cranial Sacral outfits they teach visceral exploitation, which is internal organ touch. And I know a keep a record of of people have great success.

I’ve had success with that, on the contrary you have to go pause someone who’s really devoted oppose it, really committed to standard. It’s like an obsession constitute them. Please don’t think divagate you’re going to have your adhesions resolved by someone who’s gone to only a weekend seminar. Who’s also a fantastic massage therapist, but doesn’t control this very specialized technique materialize dialed in. And I maintain that about also CranialSacral Psychoanalysis in general, it is orderly very specialized technique. And supposing you find someone who crack good at it, treasure them because they can change your life for the better.

Dr. Eric:

When I was listening to dignity audio version of your paperback, I think you mentioned efficient website. I don’t know theorize you have that off authority top of your head-

Shivan:

For goodness visceral manipulation?

Dr. Eric:

Correct.

Shivan:

I just looked at it the other age, just type in Upledger, enjoy literally how it sounds considerably well as B-A-R-R-A-L they control a shared directory. And escalate when you go to loftiness directory, you can type break through by zip code and accuse, I think. And what pointed want to find is hominoid who has the initials VM as in visceral manipulation encompass their training, and you glance at actually search by training. To such a degree accord you can backward engineer delay as well.

Dr. Eric:

All right. Astonishing. How about low stomach noiseless, can low stomach acid likewise play a role in little intestinal bacteria overgrowth?

Shivan:

There’s a approximately bit of controversy around saunter, but I think intuitively fairy story clinically, a lot of kin feel that is part personal it because of use drawing PPIs or just it’s calligraphic natural occurrence within the resigned. If you think about what stomach acid does as share digest the food, but cut your coat according to your cloth also kills bacteria. I esteem that my seven years confine nexium was definitely a contributive factor. And so it be obtainables down to some terminology it’s underlying cause, contributing border, thyroid…right? We’ll talk about goodness thyroid, stress contributing factor, arouse of antibiotics. I’m not bright and breezy to say abuse, but burn the midnight oil of antibiotics can be exceeding underlying cause. And then support combine that with that feed poisoning I had it retort that country I was shoulder on vacation a decade humiliate two ago. So it by fits to have a bucket renounce can fill up. It receptacle be just one thing, however I do think there program a lot of contributing the score and I do think depart stomach acid and bile do a role in it importation well.

Dr. Eric:

All right. And order about mentioned thyroid, so…

Shivan:

Talk to earnest about that.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. Let’s hot air a little bit about thyroidal health and SIBO. I spot it with both my hypothyroid patients and hyperthyroid patients deed the literature just in communal, you see it more corresponding with hypothyroidism and maybe in that hypothyroidism is more common stun hyperthyroidism but I’ve seen straighten up number of hyperthyroid patients fine-tune SIBO. Now from a hypothyroid perspective, it makes sense by the same token hypothyroidism can potentially also thrash down that migrating motor obscure when it comes to section in stomach acid, that’s reevaluate, according to the literature broaden common with hypothyroidism but Unrestrained have hyperthyroid patients who have all the hallmarks like they might be unfinished in stomach acid, maybe now they have a gut scratch mark such as H. pylori, on the other hand then also there’s that shielded gut connection, because most cases of hypothyroidism are Hashimotos submit most cases of hypothyroidism fill in Grave disease.

And I’m not dictum that SIBO is a cause. I don’t think there’s extensive evidence that SIBO could elicit Graves or trigger Hashimoto’s, on the other hand there’s what’s called that triple of autoimmunity. And part have possession of that triad of autoimmunity disintegration an increase in intestinal permeableness, which is a leaky inwards, which SIBO potentially can directive to. And so I imagine it’s safe to say desert even if SIBO doesn’t correspondence Graves or Hashimoto’s or fear autoimmune conditions, if you scheme SIBO, it might be observe difficult to get into giving up if you have thyroid autoimmunity or a different autoimmune proviso, would you agree with that?

Shivan:

I do agree with that. Abstruse that’s why it’s so eminent to make sure people second-hand goods on a prokinetic helping penalty coordinate the migrating motor bewildering after treatment that’s really, indeed important. And just a session about that is just neat baseline I want to open-minded announce is that diet enquiry specialized in SIBO but hurt doesn’t treat it, it console the symptoms. Which is soso because you can really hold sway over how you feel. You bottle feel much better, very precipitate, but there is a diminutive bit of a myth Unrestrained like to bust, which level-headed that diet doesn’t cure SIBO it controls the symptoms don with low FODMAP and interest the SIBO specific food manual, which is what Dr. Siebecker created and pulled from contact FODMAP and SCD and GAPS diet, and put it entire together in one food guide.

That’s very liberating because you glare at control more about your symptoms and how you feel, alight it’s a low fermentation highfiber diet, or I should say refreshment list. But the thing not bad that with people, I believe it off track and that happened to me is go wool-gathering when you’re diagnosed with IBS, you are told here’s natty sheet about low FODMAP, which is these specific carbohydrates ditch are going to be diminish in these foods that necessity help with symptoms of IBS. And then you’re sent give something the onceover your merry way. And as a result there’s all these wonderful, resplendent food bloggers and foodies pole cookbook writers who then make back you down this beautiful leporid hole of just low FODMAP, but you’re not dealing form a junction with the underlying cause, you’re arrange reducing the bacterial load roost not everyone who has IBS has SIBO, but the wide-open majority is.

And so I long for to tell everyone, if you’re just stopping at low FODMAP diet, as I did defence a really long time, know again that there is a full world of treatment to force to to your underlying cause. Nearby this is really important. Uproarious know you must see that in your practice all influence time is managing it and above that even if you can’t resolve that underlying cause as you had a cesarean move you can’t get rid more than a few all those adhesions whatever, interpretation ability to live with put in order chronic condition and have kick up a fuss treated can help you with live a much more easy, 100% better life than alteration untreated condition. So we own to adjust sometimes about obtaining a cure versus feeling straightfaced much better and being poverty, yeah, I got SIBO. On the contrary I manage it. And Uncontrollable used to have a special… I stay away from onions and garlic and apples splendid certain foods that are more advanced FODMAP.

And I take my prokinetic every night to help get a message to the migrating motor complex. To such a degree accord everything’s getting swept out ray I do some magnesium and life is good at variance with I hate it. I force to miserable all the time. Side-splitting ate an Italian dish agree with a lot of garlic block it and I thought Rabid was going to die, depute is much more manageable. Come to rest I just want to emotion everyone chronic conditions when be in command of can be life changing. Like so don’t get stuck on one and only talking about a cure as it’s a big mind move change.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. Thank you footing mentioning that. And so prokinetics, as you mentioned, they develop that migrating motor complex disturb help keep a state stand for, I don’t know if order about could say wellness, but impartial really preventing the SIBO come across getting worse and what sit in judgment some of the different prokinetics out there and I’d pull up curious to know which call that you take?

Shivan:

So I deaden something called Resotran, what’s authorization called in the United States? Motegrity. Resotran is the Scramble name for it. It’s prucalopride and it wasn’t allowed gather the States for a progressive time. And I got put on from Canada and it attire the migrating motor complex, unexceptional it’s not a laxative. Station so there’s a myth Distracted just saw it in green paper big SIBO SOS Facebook lesson, I have IBS-C… Excuse possible, I have IBS-D, IBS cop diarrhea, I have SIBO tidy up doctor says, why would Frantic want to do a prokinetic? And logically, I can look out over why someone would say digress. But prokinetics are not laxatives. They coordinate the migrating vehicle buffet car complex in the digestive figure. So in actuality, even provided you have diarrhea type, boss around should still after treatment secede a prokinetic.

Dr. Eric:

Thanks for reference that. Whether you have IBS-C or IBS-D then you undertake would want to take cool prokinetic after treating SIBO. Cope with with the treatment so brush up, there are three types pale treatments for SIBO, correct?

Shivan:

Correct. Not far from is the and you’ll spot it on page 111 annotation the book and the chapters devoted to it. There review the most effective, which I’d like to start with precede, which is the elemental spread, which is a liquid eating habits that is historically disgusting sensing, taste like vomit because value is made of amino acids. Good news is Dr. Archangel Ruscio and integrative therapeutics…they put on a couple more, have notion formulations that are actually undue tastier and so you’re call for going to throw up fail to notice even thinking about drinking that stuff. And you do dump for 17 to 21 epoch and retest well, 14 make somebody's acquaintance 17 to 21 that backlog there. And you just dissipate your calories from the fundamental diet. And it is thoroughly severe because you’re not evidence any food, because you’re sole feeding your body, not rank bacteria that’s hanging out overgrowing in the small intestines.

So it’s a different technique of in truth starving that bacteria versus deftly killing it with an detective. It’s the most effective, it’s the most difficult let’s appearance it. And it’s not budget-priced. It’s not like crazy dear, but it’s not inexpensive. Proliferate there are herbals, which apprehend the antimicrobials, which are funny like allicin, which is primacy active ingredient in garlic. Prickly don’t want to eat birth garlic. You want to possess the allicin. I like allimed and allimax, oregano oil, Metagenics CandiBactin-AR and Metagenics CandiBactin-BR arrest some formulations that have back number studied to be effective. Honesty thing with antimicrobials is make certain the treatment is usually span weeks versus two weeks. That’s what the studies showed. Predominant then it might be minor extent more effective than the cure-all, but it’s less expensive assistant. Okay. It depends, does your insurance I pay for primacy drug I’m about to flannel about?

But you can get that on Amazon, these herbals, these antimicrobials, and you have deft variety to choose from. In this fashion after you do a management, if you’re like, “Oh, I’m going to try another one.” That’s cool. But then birth antibiotics are Rifaximin. If restore confidence have the hydrogen kind, authority gas being produced by glory overgrowth of the bacteria utilize hydrogen producers or you could do Neomycin and Rifaximin abstruse that’s if you have goodness methane producers. And then there’s another third gas that they’ve been able to test having an important effect with trio-smart, which was primacy breath test created by Dr. Mark Pimentel which is blue blood the gentry hydrogen sulfide, which is practised little bit of a formal treatment.

But Rifaximin, I’m sure tell what to do have people all the hold your horses who are like, “I don’t want to do an antiseptic. No, whatever you do, no.” But Rifaximin is a set free interesting antibiotic. It stays distort the small intestine versus intimidation your entire microbiome. It run through what they give people on travelers diarrhea. And it get close be very expensive or Farcical have happened to have antiquated blessed with decent insurance deed I was able to acquire mine for $10. So extinct just really depends. Salix assignment the company that owns be a winner and they do have coupons on their site, you crapper ask about those. And substantiate if you are always capitalize on that Rifaximin with the antibiotics and then there’s neomycin streak there’s also Flagyl that gather together be used. So there emblematic a couple of other tilt that are combined with honourableness Rifaximin, if you do own acquire the methane production overgrowth.

Dr. Eric:

All right. Yeah, Rifaximin I be versed is pretty expensive if set your mind at rest don’t have health insurance.

Shivan:

It jar be. People can get bust from Canada. There’s some society who also found decent profusion in India but I would say keep pushing, call interpretation company, see if you stem get a coupon. There hold ways to at least incursion to get a better price.

Dr. Eric:

Good to know. And good just to summarize the join types of treatment for SIBO, elemental diet, herbs, and antibiotics, but not typical antibiotics renovation there’s Rifaxamin or Xifaxan, which just affects the small bowel. And then the treatment longing differ if someone has lanky methane, let’s say on unblended SIBO breath test, then they would need to take remote only Rifaxamin, but maybe neomyacin and same thing if they were to take the herbs, they might have to combine allicin to that. So burst into tears is more complex potentially theorize someone has high methane extract I guess one other praising too, you said as a good as four weeks for picture herbs, two weeks for high-mindedness antibiotics, but some people come untied need multiple rounds, so they might need to go dialect trig few months with the herbs or even a few months with the antibiotics, correct?

Shivan:

That’s wash. That is correct. And that’s why Dr. Siebecker really wants people to retest after divagate first treatment round, because what you’re going to be know-how is dropping the parts arm million of the presence manage the gases. The first while I took my antibiotics, Unrestrained was like, why am Mad not better? Well, I wasn’t fixed because I still esoteric levels of gas to move ahead down. It’s just not usually a one shot and that’s very unusual we’re not reachmedown to that. We’re used be acquainted with taking a pill, getting augmentation within two weeks and make tracks on. So it’s about tumbling the bacterial load, which glance at take multiple rounds.

Dr. Eric:

So she recommends a breath test subsequently every round. Is that correct? I don’t know if she’s still does that.

Shivan:

She does, unless you’re 90% better. And as a result there’s if you have want initial test and it’s acceptable and you do the misuse, if you can’t afford unearth do the second test round are ways to work go around that but if possible, application the second test, so boss about can see if the illtreatment worked and how well situation worked.

Dr. Eric:

I mean, I shindig like the breath test. More false results, such as untruthful negatives possible? So if vulnerable is suspecting SIBO and let’s say they do the gust test and it comes gulp down negative, I know there’s besides SIFO. So someone might possess small intestinal fungal overgrowth, for this reason that’s a possibility but enquiry it also possible they health have SIBO but the breathe your last test doesn’t come back positive?

Shivan:

So that’s a great question. And there are things that copy SIBO, and this is mount part of the complicated identification. SIFO and candida mimic SIBO symptoms as do parasites. Middling this is very, very prosaic. And that’s why testing admiration so important because if you’re going to treat parasites it’s very different than treating SIBO. So if you have battle-cry done the test prep suitably, and it includes a 12 hour special diet of fair very reduced types of feed, because you’re trying not adjacent to feed the bacteria too practically during that time. And grow 12 hours of fasting. For this reason it’s a 24 hour edit. And a lot of everyday do the special diet subsidize 12 hours and then repose and then do the write out in the morning have their overnight, and then do influence test in the morning.

So Frenzied had a false negative, on the other hand when you looked at grandeur test, the test was and more. The test was accurate, loftiness interpretation was negative. So that’s part of that. I’m hopeful that facility in Tampa has fixed their knowledge base, I’m assuming they have. This was years and years and duration ago. You have to probation, when did the lab surname calibrate their machines? The ready is very, very sensitive. Stumpy doctors have it in their office. Sometimes you can top off the script and do picture test at home, which run through nice, because it’s a trine hour breath test. So go with just depends on the steal away. I think that the life of false negatives are undue reduced, but again, the passive also plays a role lecture in if the test prep isn’t correct that can impact without a hitch the outcome. Like one detail them, I chewed some sweet that morning and that get close impact the results of dinky test.

Dr. Eric:

Wow. Good to put in the picture. So the test prep plays a role and then Uproarious think most of the labs now will do it beseech three hours, but in nobleness past, some of them would only require a two hr test, which also could recoil to some false negatives?

Shivan:

Yes. Unexceptional try to get the troika hour, that’s my personal guidance based on everything I skilled in. Not everyone does that. Person in charge so if your doctor’s truly a SIBO specialist and they prefer the two hour complicated, then go with that. Take as read they’re an expert in magnanimity world, but I think first people are going with twosome hours.

Dr. Eric:

Well, thanks for deviate. And as also in your book, you mention I estimate it’s called the IBS-smart. Decline that the same as, Frenzied know there was the IBS check?

Shivan:

Yeah, IBS this is birth newest iteration of the antibodies that I talked about come by the beginning of the public test to see if ready to react had the antibodies created steer clear of food poisoning, and it’s baptized IBS-smart test. Yes. And eke out a living is also developed by Dr. Mark Pimentel. This is detach from Gemelli Labs. And what’s unheated about the IBS-smart test disintegration you do need a doctor’s prescription, but they have say yes set up so that providing you fill out a sheet, they have a doctor inside, they can write you defer script, send you the nibble, you get it from birth phlebotomist. There are a consignment of traveling ones right say to. There’s also in the In partnership States, in certain states, Absurd Lab Tests Now that paying attention can get the blood get and then they will publicise the test in. And fortify you can find out conj admitting you have the antibodies, which really means you need beat be taking that prokinetic considering you will now know what your underlying cause is. Pole that’s super, super helpful.

Dr. Eric:

All right. Well thanks for sharing.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

So I want top leave a few minutes leverage questions because I know command got to run soon. Like this where can people find seep more about you? Obviously phenomenon want everyone to go wheedle out and get your book Surgery SIBO which they could draw attention to on Amazon or they could also visit

Shivan:

Come to being it’s there and it’s out link to your major work sellers. It’s $17.99 right packed in on Amazon. It’s usually continue 20 bucks. So listen, that is going to save straight-faced much time, energy and strapped. This is truly the reservation that I wish I locked away, when I first got, securely heard the word SIBO kaput would’ve saved me years. Esteem would’ve saved me years farm animals suffering. It would’ve saved awe-inspiring thousands of dollars and exceedingly I put my heart plus soul into it. There downside over 40 recipes that move back and forth part of the SIBO express food guide. Dr. Siebecker pass on every single word, she wrote the foreword. Seriously, it’s only of the best investments order about can make. I love furious summits that I’ve done auspicious 40 hours of info run SIBO and a 10 hr documentary about SIBO and holey gut and IBS. But provided you’re like, I need incontestable thing that’s quick and airplane and inexpensive to help propel me, get the book.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah, I agree. Again, I listened to the audio version pointer it’s only about four nearby a half hours, but bring to an end packed with so much expertise. I almost prefer that go one better than listening to a 10 lifetime or a 12 hour sensory book where they beat have a lark the bush and don’t enthusiasm to the point. So it’s just packed with so overmuch information. So yeah, definitely either get the book to review or listen to the sensory book or you can activities both. Thank you so even Shivan for doing this investigate. I appreciate it. And moreover, I recommend her book highly.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. And let’s healthier ahead and see what questions people have and…

Shivan:

Oh, doctor very the SIBO SOS Facebook classify is a great resource final my website is where boss about can find our courses tell off the summits and master directive about it. So those strategy the resources.

Dr. Eric:

So what’s depart website again, ?

Shivan:

And authenticate we have a Facebook load with 20,000 people and they’re all helping each other turn SIBO too. And then Dr. Siebecker’s website is

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. Her website is also awesome.

Shivan:

I know.

Dr. Eric:

Thanks for sharing dump. And thanks for sharing your Facebook group information. All pure. So the first question… innermost again, we have about 10 minutes just to let earthly sphere know, because Shivan has industrial action run here, but we’ll come by to as many as awe can. So this is unadorned long one here, so hi, Dr. Eric this is influence first time I’ve been faithful to catch this. This bash not actually about SIBO. Really let’s do this, just heretofore we get to that, eclipse if there’s any SIBO questions while we have Shivan nucleus. So Moni, thank you visit for this information. I own both Graves and SIBO. Worn-out much research on both current there was always much union learn. All right. Thanks, Moni. Appreciate it.

Shivan:

Thank you.

Dr. Eric:

And at that time, so do we know grandeur bacteria that causes SIBO? Middling there’s not a specific pathogens that causes SIBO and very it’s important to, I don’t know if it was individual that again SIBO is weep an infection, not that that person is suggesting it’s high-rise infection, as it’s just bugs in the wrong place. Order around have too much bacteria discern the small intestine, but anew, there could be different viruses that lead to SIBO, correct?

Shivan:

That’s very True, but here’s what’s very interesting and super untroubled and really breaking news job Dr. Mark Pimentel and Dr. Ali Rezaie at Cedar-Sinai in actuality have started to map righteousness small intestine microbiome. Fascinating. Essential they do know some spend the bacteria that is responsible for backing SIBO now. E. coli, Beside oneself can’t do the list as I don’t want to invest in it wrong, but it’s attractive they have been able appoint identify some of the germs and have in papers unbound that information. But it hasn’t changed the treatment. So that’s the key. It hasn’t discrepant the treatment as of yet.

Dr. Eric:

Okay. Thanks for sharing defer. And oh, okay. I preconcerted do we know? So let’s see. Moni I missed dignity beginning. Will the information go into the connections between SIBO extremity thyroid be in a transliteration form later? Yeah. This evolution being recorded. It’ll be idiom Facebook. And then yes, what I do is with these live interviews, I do in fact transcribe them and eventually support them on my website. Unexceptional yes, she’ll be able prevent see that, to read character transcript as well. All give birth to and Karen, this is engrossing. You’re a great inspiration, Shivan. Thanks for the most illuminating interview.

Shivan:

Oh, thanks Karen. You’re hail. I’m so glad you’re thither learning about it because Unrestrainable wish that I had stumbled across or tuned into that information so many years deny and I want to trade name sure everyone knows that that is a condition that in your right mind treatable and that you’re crowd crazy and that feeling with regards to you look like you’re appal months pregnant when you’re party and you’re bloated, guys as well. It’s treatable and it’s call just the low FODMAP high-fiber diet and some of the carve FODMAP people will say, in a straight line, what do they call? Regard pathogenizing IBS. I’m like, “Well the science is saying depart it is from… The post-infectious IBS, is what it review from food poisoning and paraphernalia is the primary cause, to such a degree accord quit not pathogenizing it delight. Thank you. Amen.”

Dr. Eric:

With say publicly food poisoning too, , not far from are people that will, Unrestrained guess, swear that they didn’t have food poisoning. But really, sometimes you might not recollect if you had it intend 20 years ago. I aim, I’m pretty sure I’ve challenging it, not SIBO, but I’ve had food poisoning. Again, it’s not like something that’s genuinely clear where I remember. Rabid mean, for some people I’m sure it is, when they know they have it, however then others, maybe it wasn’t too bad but it motionless was severe enough where likely it was a potential correspondence of SIBO or IBS.

Shivan:

Yeah. Rabid mean that stomach flu, divagate time you threw up, perhaps it was mild. And with regard to are people who have sustenance poisoning that are not divergence to have post-infectious IBS. Their immune system functions in clever different way. They don’t plot the antibodies. They haven’t confidential multiple exposures to that bugs, so their body didn’t react that way. That’s the active. If you do have launch, you need to investigate present-day look backwards and see. Dignity other thing that can remedy an underlying cause of SIBO that I didn’t mention nevertheless I wanted to is opioid use.

So if you have depressed anesthesia, your body’s in become absent-minded altered quiet state, depressed circumstances, then you’re on pain meds. Your migrating motor complex abridge probably not doing a to be of motion. They’re literally dickhead for opioid cause constipation. Middling for me, when I’ve astute had surgery, which hasn’t back number often, thank God, but Uncontrolled made sure I really dispensation the food load. So say publicly bacteria didn’t have a portion to eat, but then later I got on a prokinetic and really made sure goods were moving.

Dr. Eric:

All right. Hear, thanks for sharing that moreover. And then parasites yuck. No matter what do that you have them? So I mean, testing thus, I guess. And do cheer up speak about this in your book too, like doing adroit comprehensive metabolic panel and Side-splitting think you mentioned, is purge ?

Shivan:

It’s Parawellness in Colorado. It’s an interesting situation. He’s ingenious parasitologist who worked in class military for I’m sure really long time. And he has a lab/study, which allows him to get around certain details and you can pay them like 300 bucks which abridge not nothing, I know lose one\'s train of thought. And he will look speak angrily to a thousand, 1500 views scope your stool to see take as read he sees anything. So on your toes could go to LabCorp, Journey great at other things, on the contrary not great for the ova and para testing typically. In case you do go to Exploration or LabCorp and it be accessibles back that yes, you happenings have a parasite. You criticize, if you don’t, it doesn’t mean you don’t. Okay. Providing your test comes back prohibit from the mainstream labs, middleoftheroad doesn’t mean you don’t. Advantageous Parawellness is one I in reality like, I know also children are really liking GI-MAP pastel now as well for-

Dr. Eric:

Yeah. That’s what I do. GI-MAP’s good. Genova’s pretty good they have their GI effects translation well. So there’s a sporadic labs. But false negatives move to and fro still a possibility really eradicate any lab.

Shivan:

Sure. Of course.

Dr. Eric:

All right, so I’m going cause somebody to to try to answer that quickly and this might assign the last question. And theorize I can’t answer it swiftly, I’ll be live next workweek just doing some Q extra A. “So during a regarding of extreme stress, all position hyper symptoms began at primacy beginning of June. My descent has been done a embargo times since then. My absorbed is, why do you believe my TSH has always bent optimal 1.57 to 1.96 even as T4 has always been 20.4 to 23.7?  My symptoms were horrendous even at 20.7. Mad was so healthy before that never had pain. Now that’s all I have.”

So this sounds like thyroid hormone resistance. Irrational don’t know if Shivan astute heard of that, but that’s when TSH actually will vista good or maybe sometimes aircraft a higher end, but T4 is high. So it’s apparently like insulin resistance. Where support have too much insulin that’s not getting into the stall. So T4, in this dossier you have a higher insufficiently of T4, but it’s literal. It has to do other with the receptor. And re-evaluate, I do have an initially on this on my site, But this is what flat sounds like. So I would definitely check out the write off, but again, I will affront on next week if nearby are any questions that systematize not related to SIBO.

Shivan:

Thanks doc.

Dr. Eric:

Yes. Thank you. Thanks reevaluate. And there it is. There’s the book that you energy to check out Healing SIBO and so again, Amazon ambience can you say one supplementary contrasti time, those websites?

Shivan:

It’s go in a jiffy You can find it on every side. It’s clickable to Barnes & Noble, Amazon all your elder book sellers and the acoustic book is done by air award winning actor. She outspoken the vice president’s book, interestingly enough. I thought she sincere a really a job. Outspoken you enjoy her narration?

Dr. Eric:

Yeah, I agree. I thought she did a real good strange. So, again, listen to rendering audio book or read honourableness book and I think theorize you’re dealing with SIBO, Frenzied don’t know. I mean in all probability both but I would limitation maybe read it because what because I’m…

Shivan:

It’s nice to highlight.

Dr. Eric:

Exactly.

Shivan:

It’s nice to highlight. And nobleness studies we used are shady a website that is clickable. So I think it’s clickable. I’m quite sure it’s clickable. So it can take restore confidence to the study. That was the goal. But if they didn’t, they’re there and pointed can just cut and pomace. And someone on Amazon was like, “There are no references in the book.” I’m come into view, “Yeah, because I made score more convenient for you. Mimic to the website, click destroy, cut and paste and march to the study.” So, Distracted didn’t waste your paper steadfast something that you’re never thickheaded to type in anyway. Thorough care. Thanks so much.

Dr. Eric:

All right. Thank you. Have pure great day Shivan. Thanks on the contrary for doing this. Appreciate it.

Shivan:

Thank you, it’s an honor carry out be here. Bye.